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Predictions for SC2
« on: June 29, 2007, 07:41:21 AM »
So, I just spent the last few days playing through the SC and BW campaigns. After doing that, I came up with a list of holes that Blizz can exploit for the SC2 campaigns. I didn't read the website, so this is my speculation

-Raynor's still alive. He's not with Mengsk though. Perhaps he starts his own little faction. I think he'll be a big player though, considering he made a promise to kill Kerrigan
-Kerrigan reigns supreme, and starts expanding Overmind style. Of course, she could also get killed, whether by Raynor, Zeratul, or the slough people after her.
-Samir Duran's somewhere. The Secret Level hinted that he's with the Xel'Naga, and that they're still alive as a race. They just cloaked themselves under a Terran facade.
-There's a new race of protoss-zerg hybrids that are in as heroes, and they smurf things over. Hell, there might even be 5 races rather than 3. They introduced Night Elves and Undead in WC3. Why not SC2?
-Zeratul's in hiding. At the end of BW he parted ways with Raynor (they weren't that good friends anyway; just respected comrades). Perhaps he teams up with Raynor again. Wouldn't surprise me. It also wouldn't surprise me if he became the Patriarch of the Dark Templar. Or he has absolutely no role since the SC2 preview set the Protoss as a much more robotic race than usual.
-Where the smurf is Artanis? Last I saw of him was on Shakuras, and he made a little cameo in the final Zerg mission. Other than that though, he pretty much dropped off the face of the universe.
-Fenix came back from the dead once. Why can't he do it again? I say he's an immortal with both a heavy impact shield and a regular plasma shield.
-Mengsk is building up his dominion. He's probably the new Terran Confederacy, and there's a new rebel faction out there. Probably led by Raynor since they hate each other.
-Somewhere along the line an new Ovie forms and fucks over Kerrigan for a while
-There's bound to be a falling out among the Protoss heroes. Happened in both SC and BW. Maybe the Conclave or the Templar Judicators stage an insurrection considering much of the power went to the Dark Templar towards the end of SC and BW.
-The Protoss took over at the end of SC. The Zerg after BW. The Terran definitely need their turn. Somewhere along there, I'm guessing Raynor and company turn against Mengsk and Zeratul. They probably get in the way of his personal goal to kill Kerrigan.

Post your speculations here and discuss.

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Re: Predictions for SC2
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2007, 10:47:30 AM »
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-There's a new race of protoss-zerg hybrids that are in as heroes, and they smurf things over. Hell, there might even be 5 races rather than 3. They introduced Night Elves and Undead in WC3. Why not SC2?

Unfortunately,  they have confirmed there is no reason to add  further playable races. I speculated that there were going to be 4 playables, but according to an interview with the one game developer, they decided not to expand it to that point. Said it would kill the storyline.

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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2007, 11:48:39 AM »
I think a fourth race would have ruined the game for sure. In many ways I stick to what worked the first time. I'm hesitant about even getting SC 2, first of all because I would then buy a new computer, and second of all because I'm a afraid it would be too different from the SC of my childhood.


Anyways, as for your predictions, many of them are logical and seem like definite possibilities. One problem I have is with Raynor betraying his comrades - as far as I remember he's been true to the last to both Templar and his Terran faction.

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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2007, 02:19:54 PM »
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-There's a new race of protoss-zerg hybrids that are in as heroes, and they smurf things over. Hell, there might even be 5 races rather than 3. They introduced Night Elves and Undead in WC3. Why not SC2?

Unfortunately,  they have confirmed there is no reason to add  further playable races. I speculated that there were going to be 4 playables, but according to an interview with the one game developer, they decided not to expand it to that point. Said it would kill the storyline.


First off to WC3, the Night Elf were considered under the race of human in WC2 under the alliance. Same with the dwarfs, except they weren't considered a race until WoW. While the undead, yeah they were pulled out out of no where, and a story was given to introduce them.

Now, in a podcast with PC Gamer developers, they talk about all that good stuff, but the reason they said they would not add more races it not because it would kill it, but they wanted to stay true with the fan base. Now lets be honest SC it a lot bigger in South Korea than in America, Blizz even unveiled SC2 in South Korea. And they mentions don't fix something that doesn't need fixing, if SC needed fixing almost 10 million games wouldn't have been sold. Plus if Blizz didn't want to stay to true they would have just made SC a MMORPG like they did with WoW.

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-Zeratul's in hiding. At the end of BW he parted ways with Raynor (they weren't that good friends anyway; just respected comrades). Perhaps he teams up with Raynor again. Wouldn't surprise me. It also wouldn't surprise me if he became the Patriarch of the Dark Templar. Or he has absolutely no role since the SC2 preview set the Protoss as a much more robotic race than usual.


Its confirmed he'll be in SC2

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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2007, 02:51:49 PM »
hmmm. i dont really know much about the SC/BW storyline, its not really my game. but hey, sounds like some reasonable things from what i remember


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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2007, 06:12:06 PM »
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-Fenix came back from the dead once. Why can't he do it again? I say he's an immortal with both a heavy impact shield and a regular plasma shield.


he didnt really come back from the dead. the protoss found him and ressurrected him before it was too late. the reason why he was a goon because that is the only place his spirit could live. he could never become a zealot ever again

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Re: Predictions for SC2
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2007, 07:08:55 PM »
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While the undead, yeah they were pulled out out of no where, and a story was given to introduce them.

Overall, Undead came from Orc side, they were the ones that the dark mage dudes could 'raise dead'. Remember that smurf? we should totally play War2 now. lolz

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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2007, 07:34:00 PM »
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While the undead, yeah they were pulled out out of no where, and a story was given to introduce them.

Overall, Undead came from Orc side, they were the ones that the dark mage dudes could 'raise dead'. Remember that smurf? we should totally play War2 now. lolz


Well yeah, but in WC2 the undead story is not explained, we do not know that it was really the burning legion that brought the orcs there. In WC2 yeah the only undead is the death mage and the demons, but there explanation is not really tied to the burning legion.

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Re: Predictions for SC2
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2007, 07:39:13 PM »
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While the undead, yeah they were pulled out out of no where, and a story was given to introduce them.

Overall, Undead came from Orc side, they were the ones that the dark mage dudes could 'raise dead'. Remember that smurf? we should totally play War2 now. lolz


Well yeah, but in WC2 the undead story is not explained, we do not know that it was really the burning legion that brought the orcs there. In WC2 yeah the only undead is the death made and the demons, but there explanation is not really tied to the burning legion.

We really need to play some Warcraft II.

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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2007, 12:10:22 AM »
i guess so but lets try and keep it to SC2 andnot WC2. i feel that there will be a couple units from the combined ZERG/PROTOSS race but i think the protoss will destroy them early in the game and then RAYNOR will have his battles with MENGSK and eventually kill him. then the zerg take over everything under KERRIGAN and RAYNOR becomes a zerg leader just as kerrigan did.

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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2007, 03:29:35 AM »
RD, do you ever read the topic before you post? There is no mixed race. They announced that. It's been mentioned here. And lol@ Raynor becoming a Zerg leader.

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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2007, 04:15:51 AM »
no. they wont have the units. the story line before the game will just say that they killed off w/e the terran planned on mixing. and who knows raynor might get infested into the zerg.

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« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2007, 08:25:56 AM »
Here's the thing though. Nobody expected a lot of the betrayals and plot twists in SC and BW. I'm not ruling out Raynor betraying the Protoss as impossible because betrayal and infestation/corruption seems to be what Blizzard is good at.

Plus, Raynor really hates Mengsk. The guy may be loyal, but he's a mature man of principle. When he was still a Marshall, he gave Duke smurf when Duke tried to arrest him. He also gave Mengsk smurf for doing the repulsive, and even split off for a while when Mengsk abandoned Kerrigan. Mengsk is the antithesis of some of those principles. Now that Duke's out of the way, nothing stops him from a coup de etat or at least forming his own Terran faction. I'm gonna say he will be infested because he doesn't have any psionic ability. Therefore the Zerg have no use for him except as a slave.

Zeratul killed his own matriarch. There's no reason he wouldn't kill Raynor, but not before Raynor kills Kerrigan.

What I meant by Fenix coming back is that Raynor or Fenix's comrades somehow rescue the Dragoon corpse/Fenix's spirit and the Protoss bring him back an an immortal. It's not like Fenix to just die. He'll probably appear later in the game. I'd be  disappointed if Blizz just killed him off like that. Very un-Fenix and VERY un-Protoss.

Aside from the cliffhangers though, there are also plot holes in the middle of the campaigns, and even the pre-game hole of how and why the Dark Templar split off from the Conclave and how the Terrans escaped from Earth. You can only keep track of so many heroes and plotlines in a game. I'm expecting some flashbacks too.

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« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2007, 02:43:57 PM »
I think raynor's going to die and be turned into a dragoon.

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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2007, 03:05:59 PM »
I think that Raynor may betray Mengsk, but only in response to say the Terran attacking their allies, the Protoss. Zeratul killed the Matriarch for a very good reason, it's not like he was just power hungry. But, I agree with you on Fenix - it would be un-Fenix like to just die.

The Terrans escaped from earth because they were forced out, they were exiled. The Dark Templar split off because the Conclave exiled them as well, or at least segregated against them enough to force it. That's as far as I remember, from interviews, articles, and the game.

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