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Who would win?

Great white shark
2 (40%)
Grizzley bear
3 (60%)

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Voting closed: August 19, 2007, 08:13:30 AM

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« on: August 19, 2007, 08:13:30 AM »
We're talking about a great white and a grizzley - two to three feet of water.
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2007, 03:49:21 PM »
Grizzly bear. A shark, no matter what kind, is almost completely useless in 2 or 3 feet of water.
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2007, 06:32:18 PM »
Hell no, a great white shark!?  A great white would kick a grizzley's ass.  All it will take is one bite and that bear will run away like a lil bitch, that is if he even gets away.
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2007, 08:21:09 PM »
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Grizzly bear. A shark, no matter what kind, is almost completely useless in 2 or 3 feet of water.


The point of specifying the depth of water is to say that they on on equal footing. No need to whine over what the exact depth should be.

One thing is for sure: The shark couldn't sneak up on the bear, so the bear wouldn't be at a disadvantage.

I think the bear would win because he pounce on the shark. Get a claw in by the gills, and the shark's done.
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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2007, 03:46:01 AM »
I have to agree with Sorc though... There is no water level at which they have equal footing. If it's bite for bite, I'd have to go with great white. If it's 2-3 feet of water, grizzly for sure.
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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2007, 07:19:01 AM »
How is 3 feet not equal footing? Sharks aren't six feet tall.
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2007, 01:15:40 PM »
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How is 3 feet not equal footing? Sharks aren't six feet tall.

Have you ever seen the way a great white attacks in general? Usually they emerge from the ocean and eat their prey from the bottom up. Otherwise, most sharks grab a piece of their enemy and shake their head back and forth to rip off limbs and such. You need way more than 3 feet of water for that. Also, this 3 feet of water has to be in the ocean, because great whites, like most sharks, only dwell in salt water. However, I'm pretty sure grizzly bears are generally around fresh water.

Also, considering that great whites are generally up to 13-16 feet (according to wikipedia) long, do you really think that their opened jaws are smaller than 3 feet vertically? I think that their body alone would just be stuck in that water. They would be like beached whales and the bear would just attack from the side or from behind.
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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2007, 03:57:47 PM »
ya, the shark would definitely be beached at that point. it wouldn't be able to move at all. and if you consider the moving water in the ocean,  are you talking about 3 feet when a wave is rolling in? or 3 feet on calm water. if its 3 feet calm, the bear would be pretty far in if a big wave came. if its 3 feet with a wave rolling in, the shark would definitely be beached.
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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2007, 11:42:34 PM »
You guys suck. That is clearly not the point of the discussion; stop bitching about the semantics.
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« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2007, 05:38:11 AM »
We would if it was possible to judge otherwise. I mean, looking at just facts about jaw size and such, the shark obviously owns, but no one would know who would win in a real fight because they can't maneuver in each other's terrain. It's like asking who would win between a lion and an electric eel or something. Both would be entirely out of their element if they are anywhere other than their own hunting territory. An electric eel is probably better suited for 3 feet of water than a great white, but you get my point.
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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2007, 05:48:09 AM »
You're as thick as mud.

In a situation where the bear could use all of its moves, and the shark could too, who would win?

I don't want to hear any more whining about the fucking water depth.
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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2007, 12:39:52 PM »
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You're as thick as mud.

In a situation where the bear could use all of its moves, and the shark could too, who would win?

I don't want to hear any more whining about the fucking water depth.

Okay, then the shark will use the move where it dives down deep under wherever the smurf they are and then rises and bites off half of the bear. The shark wins no contest.
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2007, 01:43:54 PM »
If the shark is unrestricted, the bear would get pwned. Sharks are super fast at striking. The bear probably wouldn't know what hit him. The most he could get his mouth around would be a fin, and we all know how sharks react when their fins get punctured.
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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2007, 02:46:56 PM »
The previous post assumes the shark is instigating the attack. We're talking about a fair fight, with a referee. Okay, maybe not a referee, but there are no surprise attacks.

I still think grizzly paw to the gills and the shark's done. Shark skin is tough, but not that tough. Besides, even if the grizzly doesn't tear up the shark's gills, the shark will suffocate from not moving thanks to the bear hug.

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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2007, 01:59:58 PM »
Look, we can't really base the argument on Conjecture. Mythbusters anyone?
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