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« on: May 31, 2007, 06:38:35 PM »
Squads, were actually the dawn of BNU. We used squads instead of any ranking structure. Here is the breakdown of the new system I'm proposing, if you have thoughts/insights, please discuss them below.
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We, like Battle.net have 3 sections for the 3 unique game(s).

Warcraft, Starcraft, Diablo

If/when a new game is released in one of those sections, it is added to it.
Each section has a leader. This leader and Co-Leader is a member of the clan's council, and can help voice opinions of his squad members to the council. However, squad leaders are directly incharge of their squad's activities.

The council is made up of:
- Squad Leaders (70) (Moderation/can add/remove squad members)
- Section Leaders (100) (Administrative/Op/Squad Commands)
- Section Co-Leaders (80) (Administrative/Op)

This way, the only ones that are pre-assigned are the section leaders. From there, they can assign co-leaders. As far as sections go, you can be in any of the sections as a squad member, and still be a leader in another section. Our bot will contain the actual clan member list, so that we don't get confused as to how many people we have.

*Scenario* Lets say, BNU-Master was Starcraft section leader, and he also plays Warcraft III. He will then be assigned a squad by one of that section's squad leaders. He CANNOT be a leader in that section, therefore in an official standpoint, the section leader of Warcraft, or even the squad leader, can still tell him what to do during events.

Now we will discuss what each of the above command structures can do:
Section Leaders
-Responsible to create squads
-Responsible to keep channel in order
-Responsible to settle disputes among squad leaders in section
-Member of the clan's council
-Can assign/unassign Squad Leaders
-Can assign/unassign Section Co-leaders
Bot Control: (100)
In this case, these guys are like the old leadership of BNU. They have complete access to the bot, which allows them all of the section/squad based organization commands, as well as moderation commands.

Section Co-Leaders
-Responsible to keep channel in order
-Helps settle disputes among squads
-Can handle Squad membership/Co-leaders alongside Squad Leaders
-Member of the clan's council
-Section Co-Leaders are assigned only by the Section Leader
Bot Access (80)
The Section Co-Leader has full moderation abilities, but can also handle squad membership, squad leaders, and Squad Co-Leaders


Squad Leader
-Responsible to keep channel in order
-Settles internal disputes within his/her squad
-Can assign/unassign members to squads upon request.
-Can assign/unassign Squad Co-Leader (can be overridden, but a squad leader is completely responsible for what goes on in his/her squad.
-Squad Leaders are assigned by the Section Leader
Bot Access (70)
The Squad Leader can do everything a section Co-Leader can do except assign squad leaders.

Squad Co-Leader
-Responsible to keep channel in order
-Settles internal disputes within his/her squad
-Can assign/unassign members to squads upon request.
-Squad Co-Leaders are assigned by the Squad Leader, or Section Co-Leader
Bot Access (60)
Squad Co-Leaders are designed to be the last resort moderators, but can also do things like removing/adding members to squads. Most of the time, if a squad leader from another squad requests a specific member, its up to the Co-Leader or Leader of the squad to say yes or no. There should be some sort of Lock command for them so they can lock anyone from moving a member for a time.
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Since we all know the largest sections usually end up being Warcraft/Starcraft, we'll probably have more squads there than anywhere else.

Gaming will also still be considered in this. Primarily as like before, the bot will be able to record your stats. You will be able to move up in the squad or if you don't do anything ever in it, you will eventually be kicked out of the squad.

If you say you play War3, and are assigned to a war3 squad. But all you do is play Starcraft, you will be kicked out of the war3 squad even though you're still in Starcraft. It will be a set timetable, that we'll have to eventually determine.
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Things to Note:
-Warcraft section houses: Warcraft 2, Warcraft 3, and War3 Expansion
-Starcraft Section houses: Starcraft, Brood War, and Starcraft 2
-Diablo Section houses: Diablo II, and Diablo II: Lord of Destruction

Our general memberlist will contain all members, and what games they play, as well as possible statistics if we can fit that into the area. When clicking on a member, you'll see detailed statistics, and maybe the last several commands that were used on that member or that the member used aside from:
kick, ban, whoami, whois, etc.
(Probably not gonna happen)


Another system I wanted to talk about was "voting". Primarily, if enough members are dissatisfied with a squad leader, they can initiate a poll to get rid of the squad leader.

As soon as 80% of the squad members votes are in, a botmail message will be given to that sector leader.

The poll can be entirely confidential, and must be answered/setup via whispers. This way, if a squad leader isn't doing his job, the sector leader will be notified and be informed of it so they can find a new leader for that squad.

Squad names are entirely up to the section leaders, but can also be voted on by the members. We can either hold the poll here on the forums in your section, or you can create a poll on the bot and the active gamers will get messages asking them to respond.

I'm no longer assigning names like "Alpha Squadron", or Beta Squadron.

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One last thing before I finish this. Knights.

Some of you may remember the Knights. Primarily this squad is up to the section leader's discretion. These are the gamers in your section that if BNU gets challanaged, that you have the most faith in.

This would be a separate squad, and can be assigned to ANYONE in your game section that has your game marked down that they play.

The only people that can assign "knight status" are the section leaders.

If you are assigned as a knight, it does mean you can put on another tag if you'd like. IE:

If BNU-Sorceress was really good at Starcraft, and I assigned him the Knight rank, he could opt to make his name: BNU-Sorceress[k]

You do not have to change names however.

The Knights are the special elite group of gamers. If a knight loses to a regular member of the clan, they lose their position and that member will take their place. Obviously, if the knight is good enough, they could get re-assigned, or challange that member for their place back. To handle this, we can setup a bot command or two, that can assign "special games" for positions within the Knights/other special groups.

If BNU-Master wanted to challange BNU-Sorceress for his [K], he'd do this:
~challange <username> <type>

Username would of course be BNU-Sorceress, type is something like this:
Type Chart:
- 1 - Knight Or other special status
- 2 - Tournament game (If the bot has tournament abilities
- 3 - For fun?

Each challange that is either win or loss can be recorded on the clan's website.

Basically when you exit the game, and come back into the channel after accepting the challange, the bot records what you left with as far as stats, and will determine if you won or not. If its a DRAW, then there is no win, and the challange is nullified.

So here is how that goes:

BNU-MaStEr> ~challange BNU-Sorceress
from: BNU-Bot> You have issued a challange to BNU-Sorceress.
---the bot checks if sorc is in channel/online---
If Sorc is on, it will do this:
to: BNU-Sorceress> BNU-MaStEr has issued you a challange for your [K]nights title, you can either: accept/decline/postpone

If sorc accepts then the challange is issued, and the bot asks one of them to make the game

If sorc declines, then the challange is nullified. However, a Knight can only decline 5 challanges from the same person otherwise the knight then loses his position. So postponement is usually the answer for a knight if they cant game right there.

If Sorc postpones the challange, the bot will wait until the next day to remind both parties of the challange. Both parties must be online though for the bot to send them messages regarding it.
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Thats all I could think up for now, please, questions, comments, suggestions, I'll take em.

Also, note: The bot ranks may change. Also each squad should be the one with separated ranks. Militaristic style for most. IE: You can still gain rank by just gaming. Squads are just an added bonus.

Heck, you can gain rank without being in a squad, based on your games, membership lifetime, and uptime, the bot will auto-promote you.

which is exactly like the old system.

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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2007, 08:17:44 PM »
It sounds pretty good to me. If this happens, I would of course like to have the warcraft 3 section again. If activity stays the way it is, I also know who at least 1 or 2 of my section co-leaders/squad leaders would be. Also, could a section co-leader also be a squad leader?


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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2007, 08:33:33 PM »
I'd have to say no.

Primarily because I want to open more positions of authority to more members, to allow for advancement.

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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2007, 08:38:42 PM »
i see what your saying. Of course, a section leader or co-leader could also be a member of a squad, correct? We would need to think about who would have the authority over certain things in that case.

Or maybe the section leader/co-leader could just be a part of all the squads?
Which would essentially be the same as none of them I guess. I'm not really sure, but that might work out.


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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2007, 08:41:17 PM »
I'd say the section leader/co-section leader should be able to assign themself as part of a squad in an event such as a tournament. But for all ranking/intents and purposes, they are a part of the Council and not a squad member. Of course, if you're section leader in SC, you can be a squad member in Diablo and WC.

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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2007, 08:44:44 PM »
ah, you got to the point i was trying to reach. things such as tournaments. so therefore being a member of any squad for activities, but also no squad at the same time when it comes to other events.

and yes, i was only referring to the same game.

i think that about clears up what i needed to know.


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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2007, 08:55:45 PM »
Can someone say Knights? ;D

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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2007, 09:00:19 PM »
haha me too. we actually have a pretty good lineup of SC players

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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2007, 09:05:47 PM »
The problem is I thought I was good when I was one of the best in BNU, but since then I played outside of BNU and I got raped repeatedly until I've reached a new level. We need to make sure our skill level stays current to everyone else, including pogi/cristal/clan x17 regulars (or as close as possible to it). Clans are on the fall and "teams" are on the rise, in my experience, and we need to keep up with these teams as well.

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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2007, 11:45:36 PM »
im not that good.. i can beat up a few new recruits now and then... yeah camel

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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2007, 11:58:21 PM »
Sucks to be you.

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« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2007, 12:30:54 AM »
Dibs on SC leader!
It's like saying, "Hello, my name is Camel and I don't know what I'm talking about."

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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2007, 01:54:31 AM »
Dibs on getting SC leader if I beat Camel 1v1 repeatedly! You're already a general leader anyways you power-hungry maniac since you own the bot.

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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2007, 03:54:53 PM »
When I joined this clan, no where did it say you can't be a power-hungry maniac, what is this a democracy???

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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2007, 04:29:05 PM »
It's supposed to be like a parliamentary monarchy isn't it? Leaders are only leaders as long as they are not voted down, but leaders and the council have exclusive power?

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